I am about to make an admission that may damage my feminist cred in the eyes of some: I got a huge kick out of Howard Stern's radio show for many many years (until he left FM radio and I couldn't be bothered to switch to satellite). I didn't listen to him to try to be "cool" or to fit in with the guys. I started listening to him circa 1992 because I saw him on a cable TV show and he genuinely made me laugh.
Stern's humor can be a lot more subtle and intelligent than his detractors give him credit for. (Not always of course; I absolutely hate hate hate bathroom humor with an undying passion). Yes, he presents sexuality and sexual humor from a male point of view -- but at the same time as he repeatedly urges women to get naked in his studio, he is primarily lampooning male sexuality. His humor always struck me as not so much about trashing women (although, you know, he doesn't necessarily get a feminist gold star), but more about mocking the shallowness of his own inner 14 year old. Stern laughs generally at human beings' basest instincts (base because, as he himself ruefully acknowledges, these instincts are often at odds with any redeeming social value). Of course, he indulges in these instincts as well but always with a humorous self-awareness that (unfortunately) his imitators utterly lack. It's that self-awareness that, in my view, always saved him from descending into misogyny.
Stern makes fun of other people, sometimes relentlessly. But he also wears his own insecurities, neuroses, and weaknesses on his sleeve, and was generally just as hard on himself as everyone else. We hear about his horrible body image, his years in therapy, and his unhappy childhood. His parents make cameo appearances. (His mother's oblivious claim -- uttered in a thick New York accent -- that Stern was an "adored child," was comedy gold.)
I also never got the sense -- as I do with the likes of people like Andrew Dice Clay or Tucker Max -- that Stern views women as less than human. There are plenty of women who are objects of his mockery -- but there are plenty of people across the board who are objects of his mockery. In fact, Stern has often given voice to strippers, nude models, and porn stars, presenting them for the first time in the mass media as human beings. I find that far prefarable to Playboy's one-dimensional, unthreatening, presentations of centerfolds breathlessly gushing about what an "honor" it is to pose nude. We got to hear that Jenna Jamison is pretty darned intelligent and that sex workers have life stories, and family lives, and sex drives, and sexual dislikes, and insecurities and feelings like everyone else.
Robin Quivers is a crucial ingredient on the show, serving as a straightwoman who exposes the basic silliness of whatever the guys are doing. Stern was also a brilliant straight man himself -- my favorite bits being when he allowed Daniel Carver, the apparently oblivious or maybe moronic KKK Imperial Grand Wizard, to make a complete ass of himself.
I can't endorse everything Stern has ever said or done, obviously. And I'll allow that his influence has helped create a male-centered pornification of our culture that is not at all favorable to women or women's sexuality. But he made me laugh and he made me think. It bothers me to no end that his followers and imitators, the dreadful Tucker Maxes of the world, seem to have missed the point.
I like Howard Stern, too. Sometimes. ;)
I wonder how many people who've squalled about how crude and vulgar I am like Stern. I'm guessing 75%.
Posted by: Amanda Marcotte | August 09, 2006 at 07:50 PM
Howard Stern is undeniably a brilliant humorist at times. I occasionally watched him years ago when they were actually showing some slightly sanitized versions of his show on broadcast syndication (I've never had cable), and he can be incredibly funny. He also has a measure of integrity that his imitators lack, as you allude to, and I have to give him props for doing his best to help unseat Bush after Dear Leader's FCC started acting as a wing for the fundies that constitute Bush's remaining support.
Unfortunately, in addition to the sexism you refer to, I think he's also been one of the biggest contributors to the 'sneer and scorn' mode of critical discourse which often substitutes for genuine open-minded debate.
Also, I have to say that "he doesn't necessarily get a feminist gold star" seems a surprisingly mild rebuke to give someone who enjoyed videotaping a woman walking down the streets of Manhattan wearing nothing but panties, a bra, and a pair of tampons stuck up her nose.
Posted by: ballgame | August 09, 2006 at 10:13 PM
I know other women who listen to (like) Howard Stern. I don't get it. Then again, maybe I'm not in touch with my inner adolescent.
Posted by: chipmunk | August 10, 2006 at 08:38 AM
I grew up with K Rock, Stern's first big gig. A friend and I sat in study hall sharing her walkman headphones across the desks so we could roar (silently) to the Howard Stern show...I never felt like he was particularly hard on women - at least not in comparison to himself or others. His phone pranks were the best.
Who couldn't laugh at Ba-ba-booey? I ask you.
Posted by: Txfeminist | August 10, 2006 at 01:42 PM
I never did learn to appreciate Stern but I have listened to Tom Leykis about a dozen times in my life and I enjoyed his shows even though some feminists claim he is a misogynist. All he does is offer his wisdom, via Leykis 101, to guys who want to get laid and not be in relationships. I almost spit out my drink the first time I heard his Tabasco Sauce Rule.
Posted by: TangoMan | August 10, 2006 at 02:24 PM
Not funny. Sorry.
Posted by: The Happy Feminist | August 10, 2006 at 02:26 PM
I have very conflicted feelings about Stern, and about your post. There is a lot of truth in what you say about Stern and the subtle way he seems to be satirizing misogyny rather than endorsing it. I listened to him way back in his WNBC days when I was growing up, and then I listed to him in the late 1980s when he began simulcasting his show in Philadelphia, and he made me laugh far more than he made me cringe. But here's the problem. His audience largely doesn't get it. For them, he normalizes and legitimizes the misogyny that you and I think he is mocking. I love Stern's Lenny Bruce like moments of social commentary, but to build an audience, I think then when he went national he ramped up the cruder compenents of the show and it lost a lot of its appeal. I'm curious about how he is going about trying to build a satellite radio audience,in terms of what the content of his show is now, but not curious enough to subscribe :>)
Posted by: Ann Bartow | August 10, 2006 at 04:26 PM
I have very conflicted feelings about Stern, and about your post. There is a lot of truth in what you say about Stern and the subtle way he seems to be satirizing misogyny rather than endorsing it. I listened to him way back in his WNBC days when I was growing up, and then I listed to him in the late 1980s when he began simulcasting his show in Philadelphia, and he made me laugh far more than he made me cringe. But here's the problem. His audience largely doesn't get it. For them, he normalizes and legitimizes the misogyny that you and I think he is mocking. I love Stern's Lenny Bruce like moments of social commentary, but to build an audience, I think then when he went national he ramped up the cruder compenents of the show and it lost a lot of its appeal. I'm curious about how he is going about trying to build a satellite radio audience,in terms of what the content of his show is now, but not curious enough to subscribe :>)
Posted by: Ann Bartow | August 10, 2006 at 04:27 PM
I think Ann Bartow hit it on the head. I have laughed listening to Stern as well. Yet, I feel like he is a net negative because of the reasons mentioned by Bartow.
Posted by: will | August 10, 2006 at 10:09 PM
I agree with Ann completely. Sometimes Stern really made me laugh, a lot of times Stern really made me cringe. But he's too subtle for most of his audience (witness his callers and even his guests). Ann's hit it right on the head.
Posted by: ms | August 11, 2006 at 09:07 AM